What you feel is life, what you live is another story.

Author: tomgrasso (Page 25 of 38)

A conversation of Conscience

For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law,  these people,  although not having law,  are a law to themselves.

In some aspects, they are.  But what is the higher purpose, living by the law of True Nature or living by the law of man?

They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written “in their hearts” (within) while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and between their own thoughts they are being ‘accused’ or even ‘excused’.
So a conscience can either excuse actions or accuse actions.

You describe the sublime relationship here, whether or not you chose to.  We all have the “law” (as you put it) written in our hearts.  It is our True Nature not associated with any one religion or faith but in the unity of each of them.  In order for that “law” to be manifested physically it has to have a bridge from the spirit to the physical world…and that bridge is what we can call “conscience” if we like.

However, our conscience has a man-made component that is both egoic and counter to this higher vision of self we are all born with.  That is the first voice you hear in all matters, the one that judges, the one that blames, the one that believes it is right and that others are wrong.  It is NOT the voice that seeks a higher purpose, it is the voice that ensures we do NOT achieve it.  It is, in the figurative sense, the voice Eve heard in the Garden and the voice Adam listened to as he ate the apple.  It is the voice the separates us from our higher selves – that part of us that is of the Absolute – that part of us called Being (or God).

No, if we wish to be our True Natures and to find and attain that higher vision of our selves we first must stop listening to the voice of ego.  Instead, we must find our conscience.  Again, this takes much practice and focus…which is usually too much work for most of us to undertake.  Yet, for the seekers, it is an imperative activity to which all others depend.  Our conscience is that voice that leads us to a higher purpose…the one we rarely hear let alone listen to…the one that is God.

Therefore a conscience cannot accuse or excuse, it cannot judge right from wrong because it only knows one side of the equation necessary for judgment.  If it judges it is ego, not conscience, you are listening to.  Rather, your conscience will lead you to “heaven” if you listen to it, which means you simply cannot judge the actions of others as right or wrong because you cannot tell the difference between the two.  A nice lead in to:

Who’d want the conscience, or the voice within, of a serial killer?

We all have the voice.  It’s just that some egos are associated with the “good” of not killing, while others are associated with the “bad” of killing over and over again.  Still, neither is listening to their conscience as described above.  If they were, there would be no such thing as serial killing and we simply would not know ourselves as “good” for not killing or “bad” for doing it.  Now you can see the purpose for the “bad”, it allows the “good” to exist.

Wasn’t Jesus conscience trained by Scriptural teaching and learning?

Perhaps, but perhaps not in the way you think.  There are two things important in the “training”.  First, there is knowledge.  That is what we learn in our schools, our churches, our faiths and our reading.  The second, and equally important is wisdom.  This is often overlooked.  This allows the knower to employ the knowledge.  One reason our schools suck so bad is that we attempt to teach knowledge without imparting wisdom.  Therefore, most don’t know what to do with the knowledge they have gained.

It would seem Jesus used the knowledge of scripture to impart wisdom on those he touched.  He truly followed his conscience which at times seemed to go against what knowledge others took from their scriptural education.  That is why he was at odds with them, and what may have led to his death.  Wisdom would cause us all to listen to conscience.

If conscience was formed through the training you described, it would be egoic and not Divine.  It could be said that his training, assuming he had much, led him to his conscience but it cannot be said that his training created his conscience.

©2010 Thomas P. Grasso All Rights Reserved

The difference in Heaven and Hell

 There is a difference between heaven and hell.  In heaven, everything is right and good, and in hell everything is wrong and bad.  Soon, you will find that you are the Creator of either. ~Tom Grasso

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Can’t that ‘voice within’ be the dictates of conscience?

Depends, assuming I understand this question.  There are many “voices within”.  Depends on which voice you are listening to.

There is a trick I have learned through listening.  We all have a higher vision of our selves.  That higher vision is our “soul purpose”.  When a voice is contrary to that higher vision, I don’t see it as being the one I want to listen to.  When it is in line with it, that is the voice that I strive to listen to. You will find that when we listen to the voice that works the “higher vision” of ourselves, we all would work in a unison not found in any Bible, and could work in a way to which a book like the Bible is not necessary.

First, you must know your higher vision.  It is never what it seems at first, but can be found in deep meditation and prayer.  It is a journey unto itself, one most people are too lazy or too ego-attached to undertake.  The first higher vision you have of yourself is usually ego-generated.  It is a defense mechanism of the ego usually appearing to be “good” while easily found although rarely attained.  That is not the “higher”, it is the first.  It usually takes a very long time of focus, work and dedication to find that “higher vision”.

Then the work continues to focus on being in line with that higher vision.  It becomes easier as the focus needed becomes sharper through practice.  Once you attain enlightenment you will see it becomes your True Nature.

I hear this “voice” clearly as a feeling of truth from within my soul.  I am still trying to discover my “higher vision” and my “soul purpose” and realize that it has been a process since my youth.  See, it ain’t easy or quick!!

©2009 Thomas P. Grasso All Rights Reserved

Our Government doesn’t represent the people?

It was stated during an internet discussion by a libertarian friend of mine that the government does not represent the people, but rather bankers and the very wealthy.  Below is my response:

It does represent the people, a people who have no interest in it whatsoever.  You never do go quite far enough in what really is the cause in government.  Sure, the bankers and wealthy have a foothold, but that is only because the PEOPLE have allowed them to.  WE vote for two parties only, WE vote for incumbents entrenched in the bureaucracy, WE keep the status quo status quo.

So, the bankers take advantage of our laziness…you can’t blame the dog for eating the scraps that fall on the floor can you?

I have a feeling you like to blast the current status quo because you fear the truth, that unless this society takes control we are lost, and in order to take control there has to be something that wakes them, and in order to be awakened they have to accept their blame for all that has happened up into that very moment.  These things won’t happen in this society…it has gotten too fat and too invested in the status quo.  Even you are invested in this status quo, because without it you simply would not exist as you like…an “enemy” of the “enemy”.

So…in order for this society to wake up, two things must happen.  First, YOU must wake up as an individual (you think you are now because you believe you “know” things that everyone else is blind to, but you aren’t because you blame the wrong things).  Without you waking yourself up, you will never be part of the solution.

Second, this society must suffer.  It is the only thing that wakes us up.  All of these government programs are the beginning to that suffering that was destined the first time government employed someone to protect you, or instituted committees that regulated how you could build, or what you could build.  The eventual suffering we will face is destined as we repeat the history other societies have created…it is a foregone conclusion.

I simply wish it to be me that suffers for the mistakes I have made and not my children.  I don’t want to pass this mistake on to them.  I want to teach them from MY example of suffering how to live, how to be, and how to become wise beyond this insanity.  Teaching them does not include blaming others for the mistake…it involves taking responsibility for self and working toward your sense of higher cause. It means being the example, not talking about it.

So, I hope to expedite the course of suffering so that it may be me who bears the brunt, not them.  Let health care reign, let meaningless wars be fought, let’s keep trying to kill an idea with a bullet or bomb, let’s dump more and more into an antiquated war machine, let’s worry about the meaningless distractions created for us so that we may never look at the heart of our existence.  Tiger Woods cheats on his wife…front page news; 50 million people in the US can’t afford the right amount of food doesn’t even get an honorable mention.

I just want us to hurry up.  I don’t have much time yet and I don’t want to pass this on to our children.  They are the ones who need to rebuild the house of cards we have built…only this time with brick.

©2009 Thomas P. Grasso All Rights Reserved

Why put ‘Christ’ back in Christmas?

The following is an excerpt from an online discussion of the meaning of Christmas, its pagan-like rituals and what is the “right” thing to do during the Christmas season.  This is my response to a rather heated debate between a myself, a Christian and an atheist on the meaning of Christmas.  What seemed to be my key observation was how angry the Christian was getting in relation to the atheist’s remarks.  Why, I wonder, do we have the need to see the outward manifestation of our beliefs in others?  Why is it so necessary that our paths be not only accepted, but walked, by others?  As the Observer, I found not only the anger in others, but my need to mention the “wrongness” of others as a distraction from my path of inward experience.  In this, however, I realize I needed to have the outward experience in order to know the need for inward reflection on it.

If we could all just see what all of this does…what it all means. The entire debate is a distraction.

Religion, when not an inward ritual or protestation of faith, fails to be meaningful regardless of what outward signs of correctness there may be. Religion, when not an inward activity of a devotion one has chosen as his or her path, fails to be a path at all, but more of a “billboard” advertisement of what the path should be for the holder of the sign. If we all just did what we say others should do without saying anything at all, wouldn’t this world be a much happier place to carry out this existence?

Christians could justify Christmas just by living Christ in Christmas. The action of having everyone else justify it makes it a meaningless and trivial ritual.

We are so soaked in our need to make others see things our way that we fail to be the way. That’s my observation of this entire thread, my input included. I have failed to be focused on my path as my path, while allowing others to seek their destination in their own way. I offer my apologies.

No one is truly wrong in the activity of debate, it is what it is without error or judgment if such judgment can be eliminated.  While the opinions may be “wrong” for me (making them “wrong” in my opinion), they are not truly “wrong” in the collective sense, the universe would judge my path as “wrong” or “right” as the other.  In this sense, they just “are”.


Namaste.


©2009 Thomas P. Grasso All Rights Reserved

A Conversation of Ego

Me:
In this experience, in the “realm of relativity”, spirit needs to the ego to find its purpose. When we move on to the “realm of the Absolute”, our souls certain have no more use for ego. Remember, ego is a creation of God so that God may experience what It is through what It is not. Therefore, it is not only necessary, but perfect.

Bryan X:

I disagree on the point of the spirt needs the ego to find what it is. That is giving the ego weight which veils the oneness that you already are. If we give the ego weight and put it over awareness (spirit) then we have become the unstable. Unstable leads to insecurity mental anguish for you are identifying with something that will constantly be changing and in flux. Go to the core. Find the SELF, not the self.
Me:
Our experiences might be different Bryan. I have found, in mine, that the ego and the suffering it causes has helped me lift the veils and find my spirit. I cannot give the ego any more weight that my soul decides it has…for whatever purpose my soul has for it.

You seem to wish to judge ego instead of see it as a tool. In my experience, myego has been a chisel, my spirit the sculptor, and my experience the marble. In the Divine Triune (That Which Gives Rise To, That Which is Risen, That Which Is or Father, Son, Holy Spirit) my spirit has given rise to my ego which in turn creates what is so that my spirit can experience itself and continue the creative process. I cannot judge my ego as bad as it perfectly fulfills its purpose. Without it, my soul could not experience itself, so I love the ego in its purpose. This is rather easy to do or, to use your analogy, “weightless” when the perspective is NOT OF THE EGO, but rather in seeing the ego as it is.

What you seem to be doing is giving the ego much more weight than it deserves through your judgments. Learn to see if from the perspective of the Seer and not the tool. Then, you will see just how perfect and necessary each of our egos are.

©2009 Thomas P. Grasso All Rights Reserved

Today, A moment of wakefullness?

Today I feel love exploding inside of me.  It is as if a great warmth is surrounding my Being left frozen and numb by time.  I feel the life returning, the color enveloping the colorless, the rush of life filling the void left by death.  I feel reborn.

Last night I dreamed.  I dreamed of things that were, that are, and that will be.  I felt purpose in my Being, a drive in my soul to experience purpose.  From a book rose a memory and from my soul a command: “If you had but the faith of a mustard seed you could move mountains.  You don’t have much time left to move that which you were sent to move.”  I awoke with purpose, and a renewed understanding that my purpose will unfold if I just allow it to.  My faith may be able to move mountains, but only if I allow it to.

I love my wife, I love my children.  I simply love.  I love the stranger who I held the door open for while I was getting my morning coffee.  I love the beans that allowed my coffee to be.  I love the rain in my bare head, the sweat running down my back at the gym, the pain in my arms as they worked to failure, because all of these allowed me to know that I was Being.  I love my new dog, the memory of my old dog and the challenges each allowed to be.  I love the essence of lust my wife gives me, the challenge of patience my son gives me, the reflection of self my daughters provide, and each and ever moment that all of this existence is giving me.

To say that at this moment I have arrived in such clarity is an understatement of what is.  I cannot describe completely or accurately what is inside me at this moment save to say that what is inside me at this moment has changed what is not as I can see it.  The world is clearer right now, more beautiful, with each sight and each sound being clearer than I can ever remember it.  I can hear the silence more clearly, the light more vividly, and the things that are allowed to be by the presence of silence and light in a way new to me.  Such is the beauty of what is at this moment.

I will follow my purpose as it unfolds, and listen to my Inner Voice as it allows me to feel such instruction.  Such life, such purpose shall not be forgotten.  I have seen the purpose of anger, of hatred, of fear as darkness that allows this light to be.  I have felt the heat of battle as it has scorched my face, the wind risen veil of anger as it hides the love I wish could be.  They are part of me, and in order for me to be they must be.  These are not “me”, they are but a part of the whole which is allowed to be by the light of love that is inside me.  In knowing the fear as I have I can see the love, in knowing the anger I can see the compassion, in knowing the “bad” I can recognize the “good”.  I can see the place of each, the parts of me that allow the whole to exist.  I must not grasp to live, I must let go to Be.

©2009 Thomas P. Grasso All Rights Reserved

I lie

I lie because I fear.

I fear rejection, failure, loss, suffering, death, and ambivalence.

I fear because I am asleep.

I sleep in order to experience all that I fear.  This experience will allow me to know love and provide me a means to be loving.

In order to love I must first learn to love me.  I am not bad, I am not evil, I am not…

I am as good or as bad as anything else.  I am perfection as created, experiencing that which I must in order to walk the path I have chosen long before this life began.   I am love as much as I am fear and can be either upon choosing one over another.  I can be awake or asleep depending on my choice.  Neither is wrong, neither is right, neither simply is.  All things are there for my use to achieve my moment’s purpose.  I must stop resisting…

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“Is my salvation up to me?”

Q: (Paraphrasing) Do I need to understand that desire, hunger, passion, or lust is a “dream” I need to wake up from?  If my salvation is up to me, I am screwed because I simply wish to eat when hungry regardless of how many times I tell my body “it’s a dream, you are not hungry”.  I need not feel guilty from the listening to my body.

I would say don’t replace one identity with another. You will only learn what you are ready to learn. You are experiencing all that you must in the way that you must. You can choose (yes, you have the choice) to be completely aware or to be completely unconscious. Neither is wrong!

If you are hungry, you may choose to eat or be free of the desire. If you want to enjoy Christmas, so be it. If you wish to be free of considering Christmas as any different from any other day, so be it. Don’t, for one minute, submit to the idiocy of others who deem to tell you what is proper, what is right, as if they somehow know better. They are free to tell you whatever they wish, but you are free to listen to whatever you wish. And I use the word “idiocy” to describe the notion that anyone on this forum or elsewhere can somehow instruct you on the “right” way to live or be.

I rarely read this forum or engage in discussions here. I find the “commune” sense contrary to my purpose of the moment. Something drew me to read this passage at this time, and to respond. I don’t question it, it just is. As you will be, or as any of us will be. Once the “Being” becomes united in community it fails to be anything other than the collective identity. I simply cannot see the act of replacing the Bible with another guide any better than living a lie.

God will tell you what you need when you are ready, and it might not be in this lifetime. The fact that you are questioning this is a sign that perhaps you are ready to seek the source. If so, follow your path. If not, follow your path. Or not.

One last thing. Believing that “none of this is real” because you read it in a New Age book means nothing. You must find this out for yourself in order to make your choice. Until then, it may ALL be real…or it may not. A book will not get it done for you, you must discover the path, walk the path, and then emerge from the destination as you were meant to. The inane meanderings of others who protest that “none of this is real” are part of the dream, or not, depending on your perspective. They may know it not to be “real” or know it to be a “dream”, but few have actually experienced the dream, or peeled away the layers to find the illusion. The book itself may be a guide to such enlightenment, or it may be nothing more than a way to distinguish those who know from those who are.

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Handshake

“I extend my hand to you, but have no attachment to you doing the same. My extended hand need not be filled to experience its purpose.”

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